It may also be possible to use Mind as a conduit for Forces: This doesn't combine the two spheres into one effect, but it still makes use of both of them in the same scene: When speaking in front of a crowd, use Forces to amplify your voice, and use Mind to sway your audience to your point of view. You could channel this as long as you're near the shop's entrance, or use Prime to set and forget. Cast a spell on it so that it chimes sweetly when most people enter your shop, but it takes on a discordant tone when someone enters who (intends to do something bad, is in disguise, hasn't bathed, etc.). You're a shop-keeper with a bell above your door. Correspondence could help negate the distance problem. When the light is dim or far away, the difficulty is lower or the effect is nonexistent. When the light is bright or close by, the difficulty is high. Alternatively, the effect could incur a Willpower roll. The Mind effect should be less powerful as the light gets dimmer or farther away. Otherwise, you may have to remain near the object. (Light is a force.) With Prime, this could become a "set it and forget it"-type spell. Make a lantern or candle perform some Mind effect on whoever sees its light. Gravity is under the purview of Forces, but would it really be fair to say you can read anybody's mind anywhere on the planet because they're in contact with the same gravity as you? Probably not. (Without Forces and the wire, this would require Correspondence or close proximity to the other person, as per usual.) Of course, it depends on your gaming group how far you should take this. You could send secret messages to the other person, read his mind to determine whether what he said was truthful, etc. But my initial thoughts are to use Forces as a conduit for Mind:ĭepending on when and where your story is set, you could do Mind magic over a telegraph or telephone line by using the electrical impulses between you and the other person. I don't have access to the books you mentioned, so I may be duplicating something here. Mentions I could find between the two spheres: It's only one and it's located on page 165, under Transmute Minor Forces: he can transmute a pure idea into a construct of force. : Transmute Minor Forces (convert forces into ther types, shift their intensity radically, create a force from nothing, banish a force into oblivion).: Control Minor Forces (divert a force, change its quality, control its dispersion).: Perceive Forces (sense, where they emanate from, where they go, determine intensity).: Telepathy, Surpass Language Barrier, Project Illusions, Create False Thoughts, Mental Attack, Control Thoughts during Sleep and Dreams, Enter Dream Realms, Contact Dream Minds.: Read Surface Thoughts, Sense Memories Associated with Objects, Scan Emotions, Determine Resonance (including drawing out memories attached to it), Send Emotional Impression, Mind Shielding, Mind Cloaking, Alter Aura.: Sense Thoughts (but not read yet), Sense Emotions ( and determine some basic principles - but not to whom the emotion is directed an what it is - only in a positive-or-negative sense), Sense Powerful Resonance, Mind Shielding (only rudimentary), Improve Computational Skills, Improve Memory, Improve Concentration, Aura Reading.To sum up, we've got Mind & Forces (I'm only going till level 3, since above that the powers start being ridiculous): Mind are not going to be useful to me, but they're welcome anyway.Note that we're gaming in the Victorian Era, so rotes such as "I get a hold of the information that's stored in this flash drive" using Forces (My character has Forces 1 and Mind 2.) I've read the descriptions and sample magical combinations written at the end of each Sphere rank, but it seems as though Mind and Forces are incompatible - or, more appropriately, have little synergy between them.
My specialty sphere is Forces, and I'm having a tough time combining the two to create magical effects. So, I'm having difficulty with an Order of Hermes character that likes using Mind magick.
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